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Gay rights not an issue in ’08?

by docweasel Nov 30 2007

Roger Simon links to an article about Muslim on gay violence in the “liberal” democratic socialist countries of Europe.

Bruce Bawer’s First They Came for the Gays is one of the best articles we have ever run on Pajamas Media. Do not miss it, if you haven’t already seen. I am deeply proud to have published it.


Gay rights, a huge issue in ’04, seems to be missing, at least so far, in ’08. I read some rumblings, I forget where, that forcing Kerry to endorse gay marriage may have cost him the election, and gays are keeping a low profile in hopes that president Hillary will reward them for their loyalty and lack of “here queer in your face”-ness, which always works out well for quiet Democrat constituencies. She’s more likely to pass another “Defense of Marriage” act, if she thinks it will cement a 2nd term (and a 4th for Bill).

Great article, but disturbing. I am aware of the problem already, but what is the solution? Like you, I am ‘left’ I guess of Republican orthodoxy on gay marriage. No one I’ve ever read or talked to has given me a coherent reason why committed, monogamous gays shouldn’t be sanctioned and welcomed as stable units by government as much as heteros. Maybe it has to do with the fact that many of the people making the argument don’t actually know many gays, but get their attitudes via various media.

Regarding the article, however, I am also to the “left” I guess, of most Republicans in that while I of course favor secure borders, I would wish every immigrant who wishes it has the same opportunity my grandparents had, when they left their home country as middle aged parents with their children. There but for the grace of God and all that. Who are we, already here, to deny that dream to others?

But what if, instead of industrious, religious and family oriented Mexicans, the immigrant problem was maladjusted and socially alienated Muslims? Then the question becomes harder. That’s what they face in Europe. One of my main arguments to “nativists” is that I don’t see Mexicans negatively affecting “American culture” and maybe those now demanding assimilation will themselves be assimilated in a couple generations.

However, what if we had the same problem Holland, Scandinavia, Belgium and France have? I honestly don’t know how to justify my opinions on immigration in the face of their set of facts.

They may be assimilated as well, and we’ll have, instead of an enlightened group of democracies in Europe, a de facto caliphate enforcing sharia?

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